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Calling Maths Types - Income Tax And Savings

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barry1010 | 18:10 Tue 03rd Jun 2025 | Business & Finance
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I am hopeless at this sort of thing.  Recently widowed friend has just called with a seemingly straightforward question that has my head spinning.  She wants to know how much money she can have in ordinary savings accounts before being subject to income tax, assuming an interest rate of 4.5%. 

Her income is £13,688.56.

I am aware of the £1000 tax free limit for savers plus the additional 'up to' £5000 for low earners.

I know a few of you will work this out in milliseconds.  😊

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so 0.045 x N = 1000

: N=1000/0.045 = £22,222.22

now that's when the interest will exceed £1000 other factors may be relevant but at that rate she can have around £22k before she has to pay tax on interest. 

 

Any answer you get should come with 'I'm not a tax expert'

they should ring hmrc.

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Have you taken in to account the 'up to 5k' for those earning less than £17570?

As well as her £1,000 personal allowance for savings interest income she also has (£17,570 - £13,688) which equals £3,882 additional allowance for those on low income. His means she can received £4,882 in interest before being subject to tax.

It would require £108,489 in the bank to earn this sum in interest at 4.5%.

no I was not aware of the £5k rule but I set the example

so 0.045 x N = 5000

: 5000/0.045 = £111,111.11 if 5k is allowed. 

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Thank you, NJ

I had worked it out to 'something over £100k' but couldn't believe it. It seems somewhat generous 

 

 

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Thank you, TTT

Yes I was just doing the interest, the personal allowance is dependent on total income from all sources. 

I was not aware of this 5k rule. Could come in handy.

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Only for those with a low income, TTT.

 

I agree with NJ's calculation and you can confirm there would be no tax due by using his figures in this link,

https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/guidance/work-out-tax-on-your-savings-or-dividend-income/start/tax-year?c=1

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Thank you, TCL.

It's remarkable how a difference of .5% in interest rate affects the amount of tax free savings

 

An aside - but related:

Having several savings accounts with different providers all on-line I find it difficult to keep track of how much interest I actually get and in what time periods (some monthly/some annually.

The banks etc. are supposed to provide the details to HMRC but that system doesn't appear to work.

I think I should tell HMRC that I may be (am) liable but if I do & can't provide exact details I'm unsure what will happen.

If I don't tell them they say penalties may be incurred!

If only we still had paper!🙄

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I get statements every April from all my accounts stating interest earned, mostly through the letterbox but some online.  I print the online ones but also scan the paper ones so I have both a paper set and a digital set.

 

 

^^^^ one account is with National Savings - you would think they should have established & working arrangements for reporting interest to HMRC!

I'm not that organised Barry - in fact I've swapped accounts around so much I'm not even sure of the providers I've had interest from in the past for me to be able to check back!

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They do. They are legally obliged to inform the taxman of all savings accounts 

But I read in a newspaper fairly recently that not all the systems are compatible & £billions (yes £billions!) of such interest is going untaxed. It said Ms Reeves was going to crack down on it (once her desk is clear of complaints🤣).

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You couldn't make it up

We can assume she's maxed out her stocks and cash ISA allowances? 

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